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July 1st, 2002, 04:48 PM
#11
Inactive Member
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July 2nd, 2002, 01:55 AM
#12
Inactive Member
And don't forget to credit your with the correct job title. Don't credit your Production designer, an art director, or your DoP, with just camera. It really shows everybody that you haven't been around professional film sets, if you don't recognise and understand crew roles and their titles.
Also, I know I'm stating the obvious, but it's happened to me and a few of my colleagues (we're talking broadcast jobs, here!). Having your name mispelt. Very annoying.
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July 2nd, 2002, 07:08 AM
#13
Inactive Member
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The most selfish credit ever.</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>
From the Dogma 95: Vow of Chastity:
10.The director must not be credited.
Furthermore I swear as a director to refrain from personal taste. I am no longer an artist. I swear to refrain from creating a 'work', as I regard the instant as more important than the whole. My supreme goal is to force the truth out of my characters and settings. I swear to do so by all the means available and at the cost of any good taste and any aesthetic considerations.
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July 2nd, 2002, 08:24 AM
#14
Senior Hostboard Member
Hey there.
Dogma 95 = The perfect excuse for being a bad filmmaker to make bad movies.
Despin out.
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July 2nd, 2002, 11:48 AM
#15
eddie
Guest
Im curious as to why you think
Festen
Timecode
Breaking the waves
The Idiots
are all bad movies.
Dancer in the Dark as well?
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July 2nd, 2002, 02:03 PM
#16
Senior Hostboard Member
Hey there.
Im curious as to why you think Timecode and Dancer in the Dark are Dogma movies. Just because a movie is shot on DV doesnt mean its Dogma.
Timecode is about as Dogma as by left B*llock and as for Dancer In The Dark.... I think you either need to go and watch the movie, or go read the "dogma" rules. I wouldnt recomend either.
Dancer In The Dark.. lol. Its a chuffin Musical for Gorden Bennits sake.
Despin out.
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July 2nd, 2002, 02:38 PM
#17
eddie
Guest
I didnt say it was dogme, I just asked if you thought it was bad as well, maybe in the same way? - considering it was made by the guy who invented Dogme.
I think Timecode is a Dogme film. I dont think it breaks any (or many) of the rules anyway.
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July 2nd, 2002, 05:18 PM
#18
Inactive Member
just to throw 3p in to the mix,
i really dont like it when they put "starring " or Max played by..." at the beginign of films, in fact i dont like Actors names in the opening credits. end credits yes , opening nope.
Also i think a point to throw in as well is whether you want your credits to be "part" of the film or seperate, what i mean by part is do the opening credits and end credits set the mood ? build up the tension ? or are they simply there for the sake of it ?
In deadlights i had this doll, in the opening credits we zoomed in slowly on the doll , then for the end credits we zoomed out of the doll with the credits running over the top, the sound from the last scene in the film "hung" over the end credits giving a spookey feel to it.
on Mortus illumina, planned for the opening credits is a short intro scene and from the opening scene leads into the credits and the opening sequence is very much part of the film. for the closing credits i want the end scene in the film to be the end and i want a definate divide between that at the credits, if i could afford it i would have "The harder they come, the harder they fall" as the musicv for the end credits , also simple plain black background and maybe a few outakes in there, but generally i want the end of the film to be the end, when people watch the credits they know the film is over.
Chance
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July 2nd, 2002, 05:54 PM
#19
Inactive Member
Well, Despin, if you say that Dogma95 is just a bad excuse for bad filmmakers, than I quess every little kid who dreams of becoming a filmmaker is a bad filmmaker, every person who doesn't have money to own a filmcamera or other professional machines is a bad filmmaker, in the end meaning most of us. Equipment isn't the soul and heart of filmmaking, will to make a movie is.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Also i think a point to throw in as well is whether you want your credits to be "part" of the film or seperate, what i mean by part is do the opening credits and end credits set the mood ? build up the tension ? or are they simply there for the sake of it ?</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>
Nice example of opening credits that are separated from the actual film can be found in The Thing. They just appear and dissapear against a black screen and than the movie begins.
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July 2nd, 2002, 06:15 PM
#20
Senior Hostboard Member
Hey there.
I didnt say "Dogma95 is just a bad excuse for bad filmmakers"
Its the chuffin PERFECT excuse for bad filmmakers to make terrible looking movies.
As for everything else you said. WTF.
This isnt a DIGITAL vs FILM debate. Its about giving a sh*t what your movie looks like. If its just the "story" that counts direct theater. Leave the movies to people with vision.
Despin out.
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